Thus a fighter realizing he was in trouble had an opportunity to recover. However, this was considered "unmanly"  and was frequently disallowed by additional rules negotiated by the Seconds of the Boxers.
Intentionally going down in modern boxing will cause the recovering fighter to lose points in the scoring system.
Furthermore, as the contestants did not have heavy leather gloves and wristwraps to protect their hands, they used different punching technique to preserve their hands because the head was a common target to hit full out. The London Prize Ring Rules introduced measures that remain in effect for professional boxing to this day, such as outlawing butting, gouging, scratching, kicking, hitting a man while down, holding the ropes, and using resin, stones or hard objects in the hands, and biting.
The rules were published under the patronage of the Marquess of Queensberry , whose name has always been associated with them. There were twelve rules in all, and they specified that fights should be "a fair stand-up boxing match" in a foot-square or similar ring. Rounds were three minutes with one-minute rest intervals between rounds. Each fighter was given a ten-second count if he was knocked down, and wrestling was banned.
The introduction of gloves of "fair-size" also changed the nature of the bouts. An average pair of boxing gloves resembles a bloated pair of mittens and are laced up around the wrists. As a result of their introduction, bouts became longer and more strategic with greater importance attached to defensive maneuvers such as slipping, bobbing, countering and angling.
Because less defensive emphasis was placed on the use of the forearms and more on the gloves, the classical forearms outwards, torso leaning back stance of the bare knuckle boxer was modified to a more modern stance in which the torso is tilted forward and the hands are held closer to the face. Through the late nineteenth century, the martial art of boxing or prizefighting was primarily a sport of dubious legitimacy.
Outlawed in England and much of the United States, prizefights were often held at gambling venues and broken up by police. Still, throughout this period, there arose some notable bare knuckle champions who developed fairly sophisticated fighting tactics. The English case of R v. Coney in found that a bare-knuckle fight was an assault occasioning actual bodily harm , despite the consent of the participants.
This marked the end of widespread public bare-knuckle contests in England. The first instance of film censorship in the United States occurred in when several states banned the showing of prize fighting films from the state of Nevada,  where it was legal at the time. Throughout the early twentieth century, boxers struggled to achieve legitimacy. The sport rising from illegal venues and outlawed prize fighting has become one of the largest multibillion-dollar sports today.
A majority of young talent still comes from poverty-stricken areas around the world. Places like Mexico, Africa, South America, and Eastern Europe prove to be filled with young aspiring athletes who wish to become the future of boxing.
Even in the U. According to Rubin, "boxing lost its appeal with the American middle class, and most of who boxes in modern America come from the streets and are street fighters".
The Marquess of Queensberry rules have been the general rules governing modern boxing since their publication in A boxing match typically consists of a determined number of three-minute rounds, a total of up to 9 to 12 rounds. A minute is typically spent between each round with the fighters in their assigned corners receiving advice and attention from their coach and staff.
The fight is controlled by a referee who works within the ring to judge and control the conduct of the fighters, rule on their ability to fight safely, count knocked-down fighters, and rule on fouls.
Up to three judges are typically present at ringside to score the bout and assign points to the boxers, based on punches and elbows that connect, defense, knockdowns, hugging and other, more subjective, measures. Because of the open-ended style of boxing judging, many fights have controversial results, in which one or both fighters believe they have been "robbed" or unfairly denied a victory.
Each fighter has an assigned corner of the ring, where his or her coach, as well as one or more "seconds" may administer to the fighter at the beginning of the fight and between rounds. Each boxer enters into the ring from their assigned corners at the beginning of each round and must cease fighting and return to their corner at the signalled end of each round. A bout in which the predetermined number of rounds passes is decided by the judges, and is said to "go the distance".
The fighter with the higher score at the end of the fight is ruled the winner. With three judges, unanimous and split decisions are possible, as are draws. A boxer may win the bout before a decision is reached through a knock-out; such bouts are said to have ended "inside the distance". If a fighter is knocked down during the fight, determined by whether the boxer touches the canvas floor of the ring with any part of their body other than the feet as a result of the opponent's punch and not a slip, as determined by the referee, the referee begins counting until the fighter returns to his or her feet and can continue.
Some jurisdictions require the referee to count to eight regardless of if the fighter gets up before. Should the referee count to ten, then the knocked-down boxer is ruled "knocked out" whether unconscious or not and the other boxer is ruled the winner by knockout KO. A "technical knock-out" TKO is possible as well, and is ruled by the referee, fight doctor, or a fighter's corner if a fighter is unable to safely continue to fight, based upon injuries or being judged unable to effectively defend themselves.
Many jurisdictions and sanctioning agencies also have a "three-knockdown rule", in which three knockdowns in a given round result in a TKO. A TKO is considered a knockout in a fighter's record. A "standing eight" count rule may also be in effect. This gives the referee the right to step in and administer a count of eight to a fighter that he or she feels may be in danger, even if no knockdown has taken place.
After counting the referee will observe the fighter, and decide if he or she is fit to continue. For scoring purposes, a standing eight count is treated as a knockdown.
In general, boxers are prohibited from hitting below the belt, holding, tripping, pushing, biting, or spitting. The boxer's shorts are raised so the opponent is not allowed to hit to the groin area with intent to cause pain or injury. Failure to abide by the former may result in a foul. They also are prohibited from kicking, head-butting, or hitting with any part of the arm other than the knuckles of a closed fist including hitting with the elbow, shoulder or forearm, as well as with open gloves, the wrist, the inside, back or side of the hand.
They are prohibited as well from hitting the back, back of the head or neck called a "rabbit-punch" or the kidneys. They are prohibited from holding the ropes for support when punching, holding an opponent while punching, or ducking below the belt of their opponent dropping below the waist of your opponent, no matter the distance between.
If a "clinch" — a defensive move in which a boxer wraps his or her opponents arms and holds on to create a pause — is broken by the referee, each fighter must take a full step back before punching again alternatively, the referee may direct the fighters to "punch out" of the clinch. When a boxer is knocked down, the other boxer must immediately cease fighting and move to the furthest neutral corner of the ring until the referee has either ruled a knockout or called for the fight to continue.
Violations of these rules may be ruled "fouls" by the referee, who may issue warnings, deduct points, or disqualify an offending boxer, causing an automatic loss, depending on the seriousness and intentionality of the foul. An intentional foul that causes injury that prevents a fight from continuing usually causes the boxer who committed it to be disqualified. A fighter who suffers an accidental low-blow may be given up to five minutes to recover, after which they may be ruled knocked out if they are unable to continue.
Accidental fouls that cause injury ending a bout may lead to a "no contest" result, or else cause the fight to go to a decision if enough rounds typically four or more, or at least three in a four-round fight have passed. Unheard of in the modern era, but common during the early 20th Century in North America, a "newspaper decision NWS " might be made after a no decision bout had ended.
A "no decision" bout occurred when, by law or by pre-arrangement of the fighters, if both boxers were still standing at the fight's conclusion and there was no knockout, no official decision was rendered and neither boxer was declared the winner.
But this did not prevent the pool of ringside newspaper reporters from declaring a consensus result among themselves and printing a newspaper decision in their publications. Officially, however, a "no decision" bout resulted in neither boxer winning or losing.
Boxing historians sometimes use these unofficial newspaper decisions in compiling fight records for illustrative purposes only. Often, media outlets covering a match will personally score the match, and post their scores as an independent sentence in their report. Throughout the 17th to 19th centuries, boxing bouts were motivated by money , as the fighters competed for prize money , promoters controlled the gate, and spectators bet on the result.
The modern Olympic movement revived interest in amateur sports, and amateur boxing became an Olympic sport in In their current form, Olympic and other amateur bouts are typically limited to three or four rounds, scoring is computed by points based on the number of clean blows landed, regardless of impact, and fighters wear protective headgear, reducing the number of injuries, knockdowns, and knockouts. Professional boxing remains by far the most popular form of the sport globally, though amateur boxing is dominant in Cuba and some former Soviet republics.
For most fighters, an amateur career, especially at the Olympics, serves to develop skills and gain experience in preparation for a professional career. Western boxers typically participate in one Olympics and then turn pro, Cubans and other socialist countries have an opportunity to collect multiple medals. Amateur boxing may be found at the collegiate level, at the Olympic Games and Commonwealth Games , and in many other venues sanctioned by amateur boxing associations.
Amateur boxing has a point scoring system that measures the number of clean blows landed rather than physical damage. Bouts consist of three rounds of three minutes in the Olympic and Commonwealth Games, and three rounds of three minutes in a national ABA Amateur Boxing Association bout, each with a one-minute interval between rounds.
Competitors wear protective headgear and gloves with a white strip or circle across the knuckle. There are cases however, where white ended gloves are not required but any solid color may be worn.
The white end just is a way to make it easier for judges to score clean hits. Each competitor must have their hands properly wrapped, pre-fight, for added protection on their hands and for added cushion under the gloves. A punch is considered a scoring punch only when the boxers connect with the white portion of the gloves. Each punch that lands cleanly on the head or torso with sufficient force is awarded a point. A referee monitors the fight to ensure that competitors use only legal blows.
A belt worn over the torso represents the lower limit of punches — any boxer repeatedly landing low blows below the belt is disqualified. Referees also ensure that the boxers don't use holding tactics to prevent the opponent from swinging. If this occurs, the referee separates the opponents and orders them to continue boxing.
Repeated holding can result in a boxer being penalized or ultimately disqualified. Referees will stop the bout if a boxer is seriously injured, if one boxer is significantly dominating the other or if the score is severely imbalanced.
Professional bouts are usually much longer than amateur bouts, typically ranging from ten to twelve rounds, though four-round fights are common for less experienced fighters or club fighters. There are also some two-  and three-round professional bouts,  especially in Australia.
Through the early 20th century, it was common for fights to have unlimited rounds, ending only when one fighter quit, benefiting high-energy fighters like Jack Dempsey. Fifteen rounds remained the internationally recognized limit for championship fights for most of the 20th century until the early s , when the death of boxer Kim Duk-koo eventually prompted the World Boxing Council and other organizations sanctioning professional boxing to reduce the limit to twelve rounds.
Headgear is not permitted in professional bouts, and boxers are generally allowed to take much more damage before a fight is halted. At any time, the referee may stop the contest if he believes that one participant cannot defend himself due to injury. In that case, the other participant is awarded a technical knockout win. A technical knockout would also be awarded if a fighter lands a punch that opens a cut on the opponent, and the opponent is later deemed not fit to continue by a doctor because of the cut.
For this reason, fighters often employ cutmen , whose job is to treat cuts between rounds so that the boxer is able to continue despite the cut. If a boxer simply quits fighting, or if his corner stops the fight, then the winning boxer is also awarded a technical knockout victory. In contrast with amateur boxing, professional male boxers have to be bare-chested. No two fighters' styles are alike, as each is determined by that individual's physical and mental attributes. Three main styles exist in boxing: These styles may be divided into several special subgroups, such as counter puncher, etc.
The main philosophy of the styles is, that each style has an advantage over one, but disadvantage over the other one. It follows the rock-paper-scissors scenario - boxer beats brawler, brawler beats swarmer, and swarmer beats boxer. A classic "boxer" or stylist also known as an "out-fighter" seeks to maintain distance between himself and his opponent, fighting with faster, longer range punches, most notably the jab, and gradually wearing his opponent down.
Due to this reliance on weaker punches, out-fighters tend to win by point decisions rather than by knockout, though some out-fighters have notable knockout records. They are often regarded as the best boxing strategists due to their ability to control the pace of the fight and lead their opponent, methodically wearing him down and exhibiting more skill and finesse than a brawler.
This style was also used by fictional boxer Apollo Creed. A boxer-puncher is a well-rounded boxer who is able to fight at close range with a combination of technique and power, often with the ability to knock opponents out with a combination and in some instances a single shot. Their movement and tactics are similar to that of an out-fighter although they are generally not as mobile as an out-fighter ,  but instead of winning by decision, they tend to wear their opponents down using combinations and then move in to score the knockout.
A boxer must be well rounded to be effective using this style. Counter punchers are slippery, defensive style fighters who often rely on their opponent's mistakes in order to gain the advantage, whether it be on the score cards or more preferably a knockout. They use their well-rounded defense to avoid or block shots and then immediately catch the opponent off guard with a well placed and timed punch. A fight with a skilled counter-puncher can turn into a war of attrition, where each shot landed is a battle in itself.
Thus, fighting against counter punchers requires constant feinting and the ability to avoid telegraphing one's attacks. To be truly successful using this style they must have good reflexes, a high level of prediction and awareness, pinpoint accuracy and speed, both in striking and in footwork.
This style of boxing is also used by fictional boxer Little Mac. Counter punchers usually wear their opponents down by causing them to miss their punches. The more the opponent misses, the faster they tire, and the psychological effects of being unable to land a hit will start to sink in. The counter puncher often tries to outplay their opponent entirely, not just in a physical sense, but also in a mental and emotional sense. This style can be incredibly difficult, especially against seasoned fighters, but winning a fight without getting hit is often worth the pay-off.
They usually try to stay away from the center of the ring, in order to outmaneuver and chip away at their opponents. A large advantage in counter-hitting is the forward momentum of the attacker, which drives them further into your return strike. As such, knockouts are more common than one would expect from a defensive style. A brawler is a fighter who generally lacks finesse and footwork in the ring, but makes up for it through sheer punching power.
Many brawlers tend to lack mobility, preferring a less mobile, more stable platform and have difficulty pursuing fighters who are fast on their feet.
They may also have a tendency to ignore combination punching in favor of continuous beat-downs with one hand and by throwing slower, more powerful single punches such as hooks and uppercuts. Their slowness and predictable punching pattern single punches with obvious leads often leaves them open to counter punches, so successful brawlers must be able to absorb substantial amounts of punishment.
A brawler's most important assets are power and chin the ability to absorb punishment while remaining able to continue boxing. Brawlers tend to be more predictable and easy to hit but usually fare well enough against other fighting styles because they train to take punches very well.
They often have a higher chance than other fighting styles to score a knockout against their opponents because they focus on landing big, powerful hits, instead of smaller, faster attacks. Oftentimes they place focus on training on their upper body instead of their entire body, to increase power and endurance. They also aim to intimidate their opponents because of their power, stature and ability to take a punch.
A successful in-fighter often needs a good " chin " because swarming usually involves being hit with many jabs before they can maneuver inside where they are more effective.
In-fighters operate best at close range because they are generally shorter and have less reach than their opponents and thus are more effective at a short distance where the longer arms of their opponents make punching awkward.
However, several fighters tall for their division have been relatively adept at in-fighting as well as out-fighting. The essence of a swarmer is non-stop aggression.
Many short in-fighters use their stature to their advantage, employing a bob-and-weave defense by bending at the waist to slip underneath or to the sides of incoming punches.
Unlike blocking, causing an opponent to miss a punch disrupts his balance, this permits forward movement past the opponent's extended arm and keeps the hands free to counter. A distinct advantage that in-fighters have is when throwing uppercuts, they can channel their entire bodyweight behind the punch; Mike Tyson was famous for throwing devastating uppercuts.
Marvin Hagler was known for his hard " chin ", punching power, body attack and the stalking of his opponents. Some in-fighters, like Mike Tyson, have been known for being notoriously hard to hit. The key to a swarmer is aggression, endurance, chin, and bobbing-and-weaving. This style was also used by the Street Fighter character Balrog. All fighters have primary skills with which they feel most comfortable, but truly elite fighters are often able to incorporate auxiliary styles when presented with a particular challenge.
For example, an out-fighter will sometimes plant his feet and counter punch, or a slugger may have the stamina to pressure fight with his power punches.
There is a generally accepted rule of thumb about the success each of these boxing styles has against the others. In general, an in-fighter has an advantage over an out-fighter, an out-fighter has an advantage over a brawler, and a brawler has an advantage over an in-fighter; these form a cycle with each style being stronger relative to one, and weaker relative to another, with none dominating, as in rock-paper-scissors.
Brawlers tend to overcome swarmers or in-fighters because, in trying to get close to the slugger, the in-fighter will invariably have to walk straight into the guns of the much harder-hitting brawler, so, unless the former has a very good chin and the latter's stamina is poor, the brawler's superior power will carry the day.
A famous example of this type of match-up advantage would be George Foreman 's knockout victory over Joe Frazier in their original bout "The Sunshine Showdown". Although in-fighters struggle against heavy sluggers, they typically enjoy more success against out-fighters or boxers.
Out-fighters prefer a slower fight, with some distance between themselves and the opponent. The in-fighter tries to close that gap and unleash furious flurries. On the inside, the out-fighter loses a lot of his combat effectiveness, because he cannot throw the hard punches.
The in-fighter is generally successful in this case, due to his intensity in advancing on his opponent and his good agility, which makes him difficult to evade. For example, the swarming Joe Frazier, though easily dominated by the slugger George Foreman, was able to create many more problems for the boxer Muhammad Ali in their three fights. The boxer or out-fighter tends to be most successful against a brawler, whose slow speed both hand and foot and poor technique makes him an easy target to hit for the faster out-fighter.
The out-fighter's main concern is to stay alert, as the brawler only needs to land one good punch to finish the fight. If the out-fighter can avoid those power punches, he can often wear the brawler down with fast jabs, tiring him out. If he is successful enough, he may even apply extra pressure in the later rounds in an attempt to achieve a knockout. Most classic boxers, such as Muhammad Ali, enjoyed their best successes against sluggers. Taylor's hand and foot speed and boxing abilities gave him the early advantage, allowing him to begin building a large lead on points.
While there was little doubt that Taylor had solidly won the first three quarters of the fight, the question at hand was whether he would survive the final quarter. Going into the final round, Taylor held a secure lead on the scorecards of two of the three judges. By using the ring ropes to pull himself up, Taylor managed to return to his feet and was given the mandatory 8-count. Referee Richard Steele asked Taylor twice if he was able to continue fighting, but Taylor failed to answer.
Since boxing involves forceful, repetitive punching, precautions must be taken to prevent damage to bones in the hand. Most trainers do not allow boxers to train and spar without wrist wraps and boxing gloves. Hand wraps are used to secure the bones in the hand, and the gloves are used to protect the hands from blunt injury, allowing boxers to throw punches with more force than if they did not use them.
Gloves have been required in competition since the late nineteenth century, though modern boxing gloves are much heavier than those worn by early twentieth-century fighters.
Prior to a bout, both boxers agree upon the weight of gloves to be used in the bout, with the understanding that lighter gloves allow heavy punchers to inflict more damage. The brand of gloves can also affect the impact of punches, so this too is usually stipulated before a bout.
Both sides are allowed to inspect the wraps and gloves of the opponent to help ensure both are within agreed upon specifications and no tampering has taken place. A mouthguard is important to protect the teeth and gums from injury, and to cushion the jaw, resulting in a decreased chance of knockout. Both fighters must wear soft soled shoes to reduce the damage from accidental or intentional stepping on feet. While older boxing boots more commonly resembled those of a professional wrestler, modern boxing shoes and boots tend to be quite similar to their amateur wrestling counterparts.
Boxers practice their skills on two basic types of punching bags. A small, tear-drop-shaped "speed bag" is used to hone reflexes and repetitive punching skills, while a large cylindrical "heavy bag" filled with sand, a synthetic substitute, or water is used to practice power punching and body blows. In addition to these distinctive pieces of equipment, boxers also use sport-nonspecific training equipment to build strength, speed, agility, and stamina.
I think it would just be a clear Canelo decision then. Really, saul had ggg on the back foot most the fight, n ggg was backing up n trying to come forward at the same time But GGG didn't get that favorability in the first fight where he had Canelo on the ropes for most the fight.
He paid for it coming forward though. It was commendable, I'll give Canelo that, but at no point did I feel GGG was in danger, trapped, or at the risk of being overwhelmed. Like Teddy Atlas said, Canelo paid for that real estate with a jab to the face everytime he came in.
GGG was on the backfoot but he wasnt backing down. He was throwing jabs the same way ali would throw jabs and be on the back foot. In fight 1 there was barely any fighting because Canelo was borderline running and GGG was chasing. In this fight Canelo came to fight and guess what. We got alot of exchanges because GGG also came to fight. Backfoot is only one thing when the other guy does not want to engage.
I'd still give that round to ggg cuz he landed a more significant shot but some value accuracy I guess. Yes but according to those stats Canelo landed 19 power punches to 10 from GGG in that 12th round. No one here wants to give Canelo any credit. Yet he landed more punches and power punches in the 12th. So, there is no logic. Judging on the whole round, I gave it to Canelo by a slim margin as well.
If anyone would have given 10 or 11 to Canelo, i'd call it bullshit, but 12 could definitely go either way. Glad I'm not the only one to see it. I thought it was 3 punches, but the last one looked like a jab, but they were by far the best punches in the entire fight, and they were Golovkins. I seriousl thought Canelo was going down. The commentary was the worst: This made me immediatly look at the time counter Don't even get me started on the several times alvarez swung and hit air but to kellerman "shots landed".
I've watched a lot of boxing in my life and i didnt have a dog in this fight but i cannot for the life of me see how they thought canelo won the last round. But this is boxing and as soon as it went to the scorecards I knew they were gonna give the fight to the money machine. In a fight full of close rounds, I felt like that was one of the more obvious GGG rounds.
He very obviously landed the cleaner and harder shots, yet two judges scored it for Canelo lmao. Lots of people are questioning Rd. The real head scratcher to me is both Moretti and Weisfeld giving Canelo the 9th. According to my own primitive scoring system, the 9th was Golovkin's third most dominant round in the second half of the fight. I don't think this was a highway robbery, but this decision definitely smells a little funky.
I agree that the first half of the fight was pretty evenly split. He fought a great fight. But GGG won the later rounds and should have won this fight. Pretty heartbreaking to see Canelo with the belts.
GGG should be either and in this rivalry. Feel for the guy. Everyone is saying that it would be fine if GGG won the fight because it was a very close fight and to be honest I think the same. Also not watched it back yet but the 12 th was interesting. Yup I saw the taunting too. I think that last fight was the entirety of the fight x2.
GGG throwing a lot of punches, but missing a lot. While Canelo threw less, landed about the same but with power. GGG couldn't really use his jab offensively it seemed and Canelo worked the body early.
GGG brought it in the later rounds and made it even more exciting, I think if he does that one or two rounds earlier he wins. It's as if people can't sit back and just appreciate a good fight when it hits them. This was a FOTY contender, and everyone is angry about the goddamn decision when it was close as fuck. No one got robbed though There were a variety of toss-up rounds, and it was a close, back and forth war.
In a fight that close, no one is getting robbed. Is it really that shocking that Canelo got the 12th round? GGG started it brilliantly but Canelo came on strong.
They had typed in robbery by the 11th round because theyre bitter sport fans. Cant imagine their guy losing because its who theyre rooting for. They'll really have no excuses then, but I can't wait for the reaching, denial and deflection they'll use. Compubox never matters when it comes to scoring a fight IMO unless it is overwhelming. Why should anyone trust two guys pushing buttons over their own eyes? There are numerous cases of compubox being off. Canelo won that round, idk what fight you guys were watching.
Maybe jim Lampley screaming for punches that actually didn't land has fooled you guys again. There was a flurry in the 8th or 9th where GGG threw and missed like 6 punches but Lampley was screaming that canelo was hurt. Upon replay none of the punches connected. It was when Canelo was supposed to be hurt yet he had his hands at his waist and slipped 6 consecutive punches.
Yeah Canelo ate a big one but he was clearly fine. He slipped the rest and thats generally not the most successful strategy if you've been dazed. The commentary fucked me up there lol I thought Canelo was brilliant defensively right after getting hit flush.
Sounds is too important for fights though, half of punches you can't tell connect based on sight alone. And yet this sub will say how biased the commentary was. Watched without commentary cause I'm at work, and yeah; I gave that round to Canelo. I can see how that kind of commentary could convince you of a certain outcome. Honestly, it was just a close fucking round.
It was tight, and could swing either way. Finally, a voice of reason. Makes your blood boil with all the talks of robbery and pseudo-analysis I saw that in a comment from the post thread.
Maybe I remember it wrong but he never used to show such bias. I know its actually so fucking frustrating because I thought yoo maybe reddit boxing will come around and just take it for a great fight, which it was.
But no, it's bogged down by such massive bias and ignorance. It was a really close fight, but people shouting bias from the refs and HBO are really just showing their own. On top of that, these stats are across the fight, but points are awarded round by round. So none of that helps in determining anything. Golovkin did the right thing by leaving earlier.
He knew he won it but while there's a corruption you can't do much. Words mean nothing there so he wanted to show how he despise the business part of it by leaving.
Personally, guess i'll never expect much from a championship fight anymore. I mean i'll just watch the fight and try to have fun but judges, promoters i don't trust them. Just rewatched Here's a great link with no commentary. First thing I want to say is WOW we really were treated to a historically great fight from two historically great boxers.
It's rare we get to see the two top guys duke it out in a war of skill and will. They both left everything in the ring and gave the fans what they wanted. As for the score, I gave GGG rounds 1, 4, 9, 11, and I really tried to find a way for him taking the majority of the rounds, but I couldn't.
Round 1 could have easily been Canelo's and the only absolutely clear round was 11 for GGG. I'm really shocked the majority of folks are outraged at the cards and calling robbery.
A careful rewatch should make it very clear that Canelo showed up and neutralized GGG most of the night. GGG simply couldn't adjust to Canelo coming forward this fight and staying in the middle of the ring. Sure he was dominating the jab, but it never lead to any kind of sustained attack save for a few power shots.
Every time GGG tried to set up an attack with his jab he either hit gloves or was met with counters from Canelo. Abel was right, he shouldn't have tried to outbox Canelo. I'm amazed that he's still this good at his age but he's not the destroyer that he used to be. Nobody should be worried about this fight, or the last one having any kind of stain on GGG's legacy.
The dude is a one man wrecking crew, but Canelo was the better fighter last night. This is the fight we should have had last year. Way to close to call on so many parts.
GGG was robbed last year, but this year it's the fans who were robbed of a potential 3rd rematch. Shoulda been a draw. I wouldn't have been surprised with either one winning that's how close it felt watching live. Such a close satisfying fight. I lost money on GGG but no robberies. It really could have gone either way this one was closer than the first fight. I had GGG winning by 1 round, but tbh I actually would have been more happy with a tie The fight itself was probably the most exciting that I've ever watched on live PPV.
If there's ever a third fight and it goes the distance, I think I might just turn off the television after the 12th round bell. He threw a ton. But he landed something like 20 punches but threw over And canelo landed harder. It's a subtle psychological error, GGG won the previous two quite big and was coming on strong. He did the same in the 12th, except Canelo upped his own game and actually landed the cleaner harder shots. People don't perceive that when they get caught up in the moment.
Fights are supposed to be scored round by round. I think Canelo won for effective, clean shots there. They transmitted a 12th round from a different timeline where GGG won that round. If landing more doesn't count in the early rounds when GGG is doing it, it shouldn't count in the one round that Canelo does it.
That's my biggest beef with the cards. I agreed with the narrative that Canelo was winning the story of the early rounds, but he sure as shit didn't win the rounds. If you're a punch count judge that's consistent in being a punch count judge I got no problem with that, if you're an effective shots judge that's fine also as long as you are consistent.
When you mysteriously change what matters to you as a judge for the last round and the last round only: That's when I start to think you're a corrupt piece of shit taking a pay off. This is one of the things that makes boxing a sport, having round systems where people win or lose based on the total rounds won and not who did the most damage overall or landed the hardest hits overall. Canelo was in easy control of the fight for all but like 4 rounds in which GGG had a couple of good moments.
Those moments were way better than any Canelo moments, but he still lost. People are just sick of it. He's had 6 or 7 fights with dodgey or unusually favourable cards, at least three of which Kahn, GGG1, Mayweather featured one card that was insanely skewed. How is that hard to understand? Or like HBO sucking his dick from the start They do suck canelos dick.
Personally I like both fighters, but the scoring makes me want to dislike canelo. It was a good fight, maybe next time I watch it I'll see that canelo won. There is a group of fans that heavily populate G's base that bitch and cry robbery whenever their guy loses.
Look at the response to this, then look at the response Choc fans had to him losing a fight they thought he won vs SSR. Decisions you don't really like happen. You don't call robbery and say there is foul play in a fight won by 1 round. Something equally confusing is yeah Canelo clearly lost the 12th but I also thought GGG clearly lost the 1st round, yet all three judges gave it to him.
I thought it was close but gave Canelo a slight edge. Also people who think Canelo won: Even though I think it's still badly wrong I can at least see an argument behind Glenn Feldman's card, but fuck me dead rounds where so heavily one sided the other two cards.
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